“I’m quitting Judaism” -Me, to my friend, after I saw the following.
Yesterday, I was looking through MASA’s Israel programs, and I found a frightening fact: It’s extremely hard to find a women’s seminary that actually teaches Talmud. The closest I found, Mayanot, seemed promising but alas, I found it wanting (there were hints of course, like the fact that Tanya is a class). Here’s why:
This is the schedule for Women’s Yeshiva 2, which is the highest women’s level they have. Note how the majority of classes are either in the “Inspirational” or “Skill” category, and also notice the big gigantic break at the end of the day (and also they say “supper;” what is this, the 50’s?), and remember all this when you look at:
The Men’s Yeshiva 3 schedule. Yes, needless to say the women are being more “inspired”…to do what? (I think you know.) If that’s your ideology, why take the runaround? Why teach women Talmud at all? What’s the point of all this? This is the course listing for women’s Talmud:
Also just know that women’s Halacha goes up to the 200-level and men’s Halacha goes to the 400-level. Why? I don’t understand. Usually, the idea is that women “don’t need to learn Gemara” or whatever, if you’re going to be that way, but it seems as if the point here at Mayanot is that women can learn Gemara…but only the “applicable” or “inspirational” sections. I mean, not all of the Talmud is about making sufficient challah and being an eshet chayil, I mean come on.
Well, anyway, you already knew all that.
The point is, why can’t they just come out and say it? They make me search around and waste all my time. I learned something though: Separate is never equal.
Why is it so hard to find a moderate yeshiva? I feel like the men’s aren’t much better (like even they spend half their day learn Chassidus, in case you didn’t notice). It’s already totally ingrained in the Orthodox world that “women don’t need to learn as much”. Even Yeshiva University, which allegedly has that women’s MA in Advanced Talmud or whatever program—the admissions guy told me that the women’s Judaic studies course load is more spread out (read: less intensive) because “women learn differently”. Yeah.
Postscript: There’s always Pardes (and Drisha and Nishmat), but that doesn’t solve the problem. (I also heard it’s a beginner’s yeshiva.) What about afterward? Women’s education is in the 15th century.